Dore Talk

 I am nine months into the programme although I had a break for a few weeks due to illness. I noticed a change at the beginning of the exercises and used to get terrible headaches and felt like I was knitting wool in my head. I went backwards instead of forwards, however I was tested at the Dore centre at Kenilworth in September and had made huge progress. Progress has seemed slower as I have not had my computer to refer to. I have recently got my computer back and found the new my dore excercises which have increased in intensity but I find easyish. I have found after doing the exercises that I feel so energetic and then a couple of hours later I slump but struggle to get to sleep at night. When I wake up I feel like my head has been hit with a sledgehammer.

 At work I feel like my head is going to explode. I then have days when I feel on top of the world and can remember customers coming in and remembering what they came in for a year ago! My short term changes from one minute to the next. I have noticed a slight improvement. I have noticed me reversing numbers more as I work in finance and have to double check numbers which is a great way of doing mental tasks!!!!!!!!!

The work has become more frenetic and I struggled last November and made some mistakes and then I had a surge when I got better again. My moods have varied in intensity. I get frustrated in fast paced atmospheres and now taking a job in a support role that isnt so gungho but able to work more one to one with individuals. I have had 5 major life changes and continue to do so, this may have something to do with it as well. 

 The mood swings calm down and then increase again in intensity where I lose my temper e.g in my car where I stick two fingers up to strangers. I have other days where I can walk away and be calm. I notice this when Ive had a change in exercises. My tests stated I have dyspraxia, mild dyslexia and add. 

 During my job offer I had to take a basic adult literacy and numeracy test. I asked for extra minutes to complete the test and I overheard someone saying that she thought I couldnt have dyslexia as I could spell!! Its Maths I have problems with. I passed so there must be some improvement there. I scored low on other results in other tests in previous interviews. Its only through the dore tests at the centre that I have been able to measure my progress which is so important for confidence

 My questions are:- Will there be further testing at Kenilworth or will this be now managed through the my dore website? Are my moodswings and different sleep patterns as a result of the everchanging exercises and cerebellum being stimulated. And I will not have access to a computer for 3 weeks as I dont have access to a computer, can I get a booklet as I much prefer this to going in on a daily basis. Its not always practical . It feels like I take 5 steps forward 6 steps back and find my symptons get worse and then better. Is this usual? So many questions

Hi Angelic Charm, my daughter has similar problems to you, dyspraxia etc and has suffered terrible moodswings and regression phases.  The way you explained how you feel I now have an incite on how she is feeling during these phases. It was good to hear about your improvements, keep up the hard work.

I cant answer all your questions but yes you should have an assessment at Kenilworth, if you give them a ring they will make an appointment for you.  Also if you go onto MyDore there is a somewhere under My Options where you are able to print out exercises as if you are going on holiday, I have not used this yet but I am sure you can use it for 3 weeks whilst you haven't got access to a computer. I am sure Missellie or Bugalug can answer your question on the cerebellum and the changes whilst on Dore as they both explain things so well.

Good luck. 

Thanks very much for posting, it gives me a real insight into how G must feel sometimes, she will say that she doesn't feel like herself, but displays many of the feelings you talk about.

Yes you can have an appointment but might have to pay for it, £89 I think.  It's a shame your computer isn't with you, I understand that the exercises dore provide this way will adapt to how you are finding things, ie if you are finding things easy they will move on, but if things are hard you'll stay on the same level.  I think the online exercises will allow for a more personalised provision.

Angelic Charm, I can't really answer your queries on how you get your exercises now, as it has all been upgraded since we finished - maybe Miss Ellie can help there as her son is still on the Programme. I'm sure if you give Dore a call, they'll let you know.

The changes you experience, are indeed a result of the changing exercises and it is really interesting to hear it from an adults' perspective. We had a lot of ups and downs during the programme, and it wasn't until about 5 months in that Harry himself started noticing an improvement.  He continues to improve all the time now we're finished as well - just as Ellie predicted 

Miss Ellie's post "The Fog" explains the changes perfectly.

http://doretalk.com/forums/p/52/143.aspx#143

 Angelic Charm I take it you are an adult on the programme and the changes will be more noticeable in you than in a child.You have had to cope for a lot more years with the use of the coping strategies than a child has and for you they would have been well established. The answer to your question is that all your symtoms are due to the stimulation of your cerebellum.

All of your symtoms are part of your progress through Dore and are happening because your cerebellum is beginning to work as it should have done by the time you were 7. Your feelings and awareness will become so much more accute than before, but it can have the affect of as you say affecting your sleep pattern and can also cause your mood swings.

The reason you seem to get times of great awareness and then it goes is because they are still developing and are not as yet fully established, but take heart because you are actually seeing what your future will hold for you once the cerebellum has passed those functions on to the relevent parts of the brain.

I had just posted a piece I wrote over 3 years ago on this forum and it will hopefully help you to see and understand the reason for your problems at present and I hope it helps.I will post it here as well because it is very apt for you at this stage.

 Our childrens brains have over the years developed coping strategies to enable them to function as best they can with the result of their inmature cerebelums. They commence the Dore treatment which can finally mature the cerebellum so that it can pass those functions on to the appropriate parts of the brain it should have done by the time that child was 7.

But the brain has already got those coping strategies in place and has got used to functioning at that level even if it was never perfect. Suddenly we are saying that is the wrong way and to do it this way, causing confusion for brain,child and parents. They go through periods of rebellion, progress seems to go backwards instead of forwards, increase of their original symtoms, even though you thought they had been sorted and generally a real worry that the the programme is no longer working.

But they are all part of the progress they have to go through to enable them to finally function as normal children /adults. We are having to strip those coping mechanisms away to enable those neural pathways to be built before the brain can can fully develop the way it should.

We all know no one likes change when we have got comfortable with a way of doing things and the brain is no different, the coping strategies rebel against the new way and causes an increase in their old symptoms and also they can become hypersensitive and can cry for no reason at all. But once those changes start to really take hold then the brain realises it is actually more natural and finally starts to function as it should.

This is part of the puzzle now in place which leads to the development of the next piece of the puzzle and so on until the picture is complete. The child and brain is now able to function normally and to develop leading our children from childhood into adulthood.

A laymans way of explaining it but for me it makes it easier to understand what is going on, you will notice the progression phase more in the mental tasks because the treatment is finally bringing all those pieces together of the jigsaw puzzle to become permanent. The greatest changes in your childs development will be visible at this time even if it seems like a constant fight, all part of their transition into the light as I call it.

Hope this helps you to understand, as far as I know the assessments are to continue at Kenilworth but not as frequently as they used to, if I am right there would be about 3 assessments 1 at the beginning, middle and end? but it is still a bit fragmented at the moment. Give then a ring and hopefully they can help you more. Ellie XXX