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Last post 07-21-2008 12:04 by bugalug. 134 replies.
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  • 05-24-2008 6:04

    DORE closure Australia

    Hi everyone. I have 2 kids on the DORE programme, my daughter has dyslexia and my son has Asperger's syndrome.  My daughter has just started mentals, my son is 2 months into the programme.

     Apparently Australia has gone into voluntary administration.  I have no anger, I have deep sadness and am horrified that we lost the children's money that we saved so very hard for.  The money was to assist them in their needs in their lives and now it has gone, we don't have the benefit of seeing DORE all the way through.

    More sadness when I heard that the UK is also in lockdown mode.  Does this mean because of 2 countries pulling out, that other people won't sign up in case it happens to them - and therefore ensuring that the UK and Australia have no way of making a comeback for all those already signed up?

    I hope this isn't the case, but my husband is an accountant and has filled me in a bit about what happens in these situations and he doesn't hold out hope since we found out about the UK's lockdown.

    I have emailed a letter to our PM, begging the government to step in and help, might be to no avail, but at least I've given it a shot.  If anyone has any other ideas on avenues we could pursue, please let me know.[:'(]

    PS perhaps other Aussies can also send email to politicians or government lobbying for assistance - with alot of voices in on the act, we may be heard?

  • 05-27-2008 5:29 In reply to

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    Hi

    I am also in dismay about the closure of of Dore Clinics in Australia. Only way I became aware of this was that a friend of my

    happened to see a TV program stating this last week. I am under the same theory that the Government needs to step in a

    help or children with these disorders that the Dore Program is helping, they seem to spend so much on helping drug addicts and criminals

    its about time they support the wonderful children we have, I would love to email the Government can you give me the details,]

    Cheryl

  • 05-27-2008 6:15 In reply to

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    Hi Cheryl,

    Glad to have someone interested in lobbying the politicians!

     Here is the link for emailing the Prime Minister Kevin Rudd

     http://www.pm.gov.au/contact/index.cfm

     Good luck, I haven't received a response as yet, just confirmation that they have received my letter.  The more people we can get the more hope there is that something might be done.

  • 05-28-2008 0:17 In reply to

    • aussie
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    Re: DORE closure Australia

    Hi Cheryl, 

    Thanks for the link.  Sounds like a great idea, the more oz clients we can get to do it (and quickly).  Have you had any replys to anything yet?

  • 05-28-2008 2:14 In reply to

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    Hi Aussie, haven't heard from Cheryl since I posted the link.  I have not had a response from the government as yet.

    I have also emailed a letter to the John Laws radio program and haven't heard from them yet either but that was only this morning.

  • 05-28-2008 4:25 In reply to

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    Hi I have been on the email, I have emailed the Minister for Health but no reply as yet.

    I have also emailed Today Tonight in hope they may be able to get a sponser. Will let you know the results.

    Cheryl

  • 05-28-2008 4:40 In reply to

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    Just emailed our Prime Minister and hopefully will hear back

    Cheryl

  • 05-28-2008 4:49 In reply to

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    Thank you Cheryl -  thank you for doing what you can  - hopefully we will get a response.

  • 05-28-2008 15:46 In reply to

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    I am so sorry for all the people who are suffering. It is difficult enough but to now be faced with no hope, financial worries, it is wrong. I looked at Dores for our daughter and sniffed the wind...it was not good. The sales techniques were wrong. I wrote a letter of complaint. The techniques were continued with a call from a manager. My sixth sense was right and we, in January, did not invest. I applaud the staff and hope that the publicity does not stop this valuable program. I just hope that the profiteers or idiots taking care of funds for our children's well being, are held accountable. I am shocked but not surprised.
  • 05-29-2008 4:56 In reply to

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    Yes the comes a cost with this program, but as a mother of 3 with ADD/ADHD and has had them on ritalin and with 1 child on the dore program I dont care about the cost this has helped my son immensely at school and in his everyday life. I have seen the difference first hand between children on medication and those on dore and I can honestly say that in hinesight that dore has proven to me after 14 months that it works.  My children had been on ritalin for approx 6 years and I believe it does not work in the long term, it is a quick fix bandaid, and children with this disorder are not given a lot of choices to help them. I believe the government should step in a come up with a good exercise program such as the Dore program and be implemented into the school system as it is in Parkes NSW. Anyone who agrees with me should be emailing our Prime Minister so we can get these kids the help they need and possibly changing some potential criminals into a positive life style earlier in there lives.
    Cheryl
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  • 05-29-2008 9:36 In reply to

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    Well guys I am on the radio tomorrow speaking about the Dore Program wish me luck, Hay did anyone here them today? The reason Dore closed its doors was because someone from RMIT Royal Melbourne Intitute of Technology researched the program and came up with the result it does not help people with ADHD. Anyone who can dispute this please let me know, as a mother of an ADHD child I disagree, no one is expecting a cure, just help which of course is a long term commitment. Anyone out there with children who have ADHD or ADD and has Motor Neurone Disease anywhere in there family can you please let me know as I think there is a link but no one can tell me this.

    Cheryl

  • 05-29-2008 9:44 In reply to

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    Good luck Cheryl, and well done you for speaking up! As I have probably already said, my son was diagnosed with ADHD and had traits of dyspraxia and dyslexia. Dore has given him the ability to learn. Without going into all the details, he is a changed boy with oodles of confidence - and happy. Can't help you on the MND connection. Sorry.

    Chris, Mum to Harry (now 12!!)
    Started Dore Jan 2007 - Mental Tasks Sept 07
    [finished Dore 1st Dec'08!]

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  • 05-29-2008 9:47 In reply to

    • aussie
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    Good luck Cheryl.  What radio station will it be on?  Sorry can't help you out re: your other queries sorry.

  • 05-29-2008 10:08 In reply to

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    Radio 2CC thats 1206 in Canberra. 4.40pm. I am hoping they dont try and make Dore look bad or I will put an end to it quick smart.

    Cheryl

  • 05-29-2008 10:49 In reply to

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    Good for you Cheryl - love it when people are proactive!  As yet, I have heard nothing from either John Laws program or the PM.  I was hoping the John Laws show could drum up investors or something as I believe he endorsed DORE and is amongst the countries wealthiest circles, but nothing but silence.  They have my email address and phone number.

    Unfortunately I've discovered they don't air the radio show here anymore, it is now only local call show, so I don't know whether its been discussed or mentioned elsewhere in Aus.

  • 05-29-2008 14:39 In reply to

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    Hi Cheryl good luck with the radio programme let us know how you get on. I must admit I had not heard of a link to ADHD/ADD with Motor Neurone. I nurse them but it is not as prevalent here locally as Multiple Scleurosis is.

    I know that the symptoms and affects of MS can be very similar to the difficulties our children have. I was tested for MS because of my neurological problems following my degree but are more likely now to be part of my CDD instead, Motor Neurone is also a nurological problem so there could be a tie there.

    Could bring up a link with MS as well, my mothers triplet sister had MS, many of the female members of our family have some symptome of CDD including 2 of mine, my twin sister and brothers children, makes you wonder and interested to hear what you find though. Ellie XXX

    Ellie mum to Leila over 3 years post Dore who is now finally able to learn on a par with her peers at school and Kieran aged 7 commenced Dore 7th January 2008
  • 05-29-2008 14:59 In reply to

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    Hi Cheryl

    Firstly, thank you for all you've been doing since Dore Aust closed.  It's good to have a voice out there.  Just wondering how you went in the radio interview the other day?

    I also wrote to the PM via the link provided on this site.  Hopefully something positive will come of this.  I wonder how many other Australian clients know of this though - I only stumbled across this chat page while checking out Dore South Africa's web page. 

    It's great they've made exercises available at mydore.com.au.  I've just logged on & downloaded some more to keep going.  I imagine it is going to be very difficult now though - my son started the Program in May 2007 and only just started the mental tasks in April this year.  He is dyslexic, but otherwise has no behavioural problems.  To date the improvements in his reading ability is zilch (his handwriting has improved somewhat), so without that extra encouragement & belief that there will be improvement - somewhat down the track - makes it hard to keep going.  However, we've come this far, so I'll certainly give it my best.

    Keep up the good work.

    Regards, Jannine

  • 05-30-2008 2:51 In reply to

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    Oh I am so angry.  Just listened to the ABC national news radio programme where they interviewed a Professor from a university who is dubious about the programme.  He had no research to offer up to substantiate his claims, all he did was say that claims made on the website had not been researched or had enough research done.  Well, why doesn't he shut up and go and do the research instead of spouting off at the mouth that he doesn't 'think' it works.

    I have sent an email to the program to express how wonderful DORE is and what it has done for my children.  I wish I could do more.  No response from Prime Minister or the John Law's radio programs.  Unbelievable.

     Fallenash

  • 05-30-2008 3:43 In reply to

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    I sent an email to this professor.

    Good Morning Sir
     
    I was extremely disappointed hearing your interview regarding the DORE programme on ABC radio.  You have given out negative publicity.  You have questioned the claims made on the website by saying there hasn't been enough research done to substantiate the claims made by Wynford Dore.
     
    I noticed that you haven't provided any results of any research you have conducted in relation to disproving the claims - yet you are so willing to air your opinions in a negative manner.
     
    I have 2 children, my daughter has dyslexia and my son has Aspergers Syndrome.  Both children are on the DORE programme.  My daughter has made significant progress  - Significant since commencing in November 2007.  She has gone from not being able to read at all to reading junior novels without assistance.
     
    My son is only 2 months into the programme and yet we have still seen an improvement in his cognitive skills at school, particularly in mathematics.
     
    I am disappointed that you have been so quick to condemn the programme without providing proof of your research.  I am disappointed that you are a person people respect, your opinion is valued as you have the title of Professor, your views will be taken to heart by many people.
     
    DORE may have closed down but I and many, countless other parents have never begrudged spending the money and believe it works as we have seen it for ourselves.
     
    The schools reaction when my daughter failed to meet the National benchmark last year was to offer her 12 hours of tutoring.  12 hours is equivilent to 1 hour a week for 1 school term.  How is that appropriate or enough assistance to make up for 4 years of being behind in the classroom?
     
    It is not enough. 

     this was his response.

    My point was there was no research to show whether the DORE program helps ADHD or not, and no research to show whether it helps people with Asperger's syndrome or not; yet the Dore website promises that the Dore program will "cure" (that's their word) both conditions. And Wynford Dore's book is called "The Miracle Cure".

    As for dyslexia, there has been a small amount of published research on whether the programme helps dyslexia, but this research was of poor standard, so we don't even know whether the program works for dyslexia. This is especially unfortunate because there are other commercially available programmes for helping children with dyslexia for which there is research evidence that they work. And they cost a lot less than the Dore proramme did.

    These aren't opinions, but facts: it is a fact that the Dore company have never provided any research evidence that their programme helps in these conditions.

    I believe that no treatment for any condition should be offered for sale unless there is research evidence that the treatment does work for that condition. Other people - the Dore organization, for example - may have a different view.

    Grr - Fallenash
  • 05-30-2008 16:36 In reply to

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    Hi Fallenash the response you got I am not surprised about, I wrote a post earleir on how the media would run this story and true to form they have. Not on the loss of a treatment which could change the way our children learn in the future but how a treatment which claimed it is a miracle cure could fall.

    The powers that be do not see childrens learning difficulties as high priority because there is still the old belief that you can only help children by concentrating on strategies to help them cope with their learning disability. Your professor and the one in the Sun who I shall not mention said Dore was just about threading beads!!!! shows that there is a lot suspicion and general mistrust of Dore.

    Your professor summed up I am sure what a lot of them feel that it is a money making racket because we are paying for the privilage of doing the treatment. That is why we now have to be proative in this to help get Dore recognised as a treatment that does work. The belief that antodotal evidence doesn't count has to be proved wrong by the 1000's who have benefitted from Dore. Ellie XXX

    Ellie mum to Leila over 3 years post Dore who is now finally able to learn on a par with her peers at school and Kieran aged 7 commenced Dore 7th January 2008
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